Lena Pope CEO, Ashley Barnes Ph.D., recently joined MaryAnn Means-Dufrene to discuss her personal growth as a leader. Ashley shares, “I never planned to be a CEO… As a clinician and an introvert, I never saw myself as “a leader.” I used to think leadership meant strategy, finances, and operations. But what I’ve learned is this: The same traits that made me a good counselor—listening, empathy, and presence—are the ones that helped me lead. This moment from my conversation with MaryAnn on the Inner Work Podcast captures how I discovered that truth in real time.”
This one’s for anyone who feels called to lead, even if you never meant to.
Listen to the full conversation here: https://youtu.be/g0z8kZ43xIo